Student Senate / 11 12/08 n ° 15 Minutes Elections 
UNIVERSITY OF TURIN
STUDENT SENATE MINUTES OF THE MEETING Ordinary
Student Senate Thursday, December 11, 2008 Report No
15 On December 11, 2008 at 17.00 in regular session convened on a regular basis and meets the Student Senate at the Hall "Foundations of Achaia", via Verdi n. 8 in Turin to discuss the following Agenda
1. Communications of the President;
2. Resolution on Academic Senate expanded the motion on November 13,
3. Draft guidance for students with the Provincial average;
4. Draft Resolution "PoliMovie"
5. Any other business. Chair of the meeting the President of the Student Senate Sig.na Alice ARENA.
verbalizing Secretary is the Secretary of the Senate Student Mr. Fulvio Grandinetti.
There are the Senators:
Representatives to the Board of Directors Joined: Constance Mottini (Law), Andrea CARAPELLUCCI (Law), Sabrina Militello (Law).
EDISU Representatives in Board of Directors: Luca Bosonetto (Psychology), Alberto Garin (Sciences).
Representatives to the Board of Directors CUS: Giulio GENTLEMAN (Political Science), Fabio Rizzo (Political Science), Monica VIGNATE (Sciences), Carlo Amedeo TABELLINI (Law).
Representatives in Senate: Marta Battuello (Medicine), Albert Biasca (Law), Paola Merlo (Political Science), Alberto MIGLIO (Giurisprudenza), Flavio BAIO (Medicina e Chirurgia), Giuseppe VAIRA (Agraria), Philipe VERSIENTI (Lettere e Filosofia).
Rappresentanti di Facoltà: Fulvio GRANDINETTI (Agraria), Cristina MARENGO (Farmacia), Chiara MASSAFRA (Giurisprudenza), Anna SPECCHIO (Lingue e Letterature Straniere), Giulia BODINI (Medicina Veterinaria), Maddalena POLLINI (Scienze della Formazione), Lorenzo FRACASTORO (Scienze MFN), Alice ARENA (Scienze Politiche).
Risultano assenti i Senatori: Andrea GAROGLIO sostituito da Cristina MARENGO, Riccardo BELTRAMO sostituito da Giulia BODINI, Stefano BERTA, Alessandra CAROSSA, Alessandro BOFFA-FASSET.
La Facoltà di Medicina e Chirurgia e the Faculty of Arts and Humanities are not as yet received the appointment by the Chancellor of the respective Representatives of the Faculty Senate Student.
There is also present as listeners about sixty students Turin Wave (called House No Gelmini) belonging to all the faculty, the university movement in mobilizing to protest against the provisions of Law 133/08 and Decree 180/08.
At 17:10, verified the presence of n ° 24 members of the Student Senate, the President declared the meeting open.
discuss the issues on the agenda 1. Communications of the President; ARENA The President setting out its communications:
A) are available and accessible the findings on "Competition for allocation of contributions to student organizations" Drawn up by the joint commission. Sen. CARAPELLUCCI communicate the results of exposing and distributing these to the prospectus on the funds (the list of funded organizations and those excluded is placed in Annex 1 to this report).
B) has been refused a refund for a student thesis because it requires repayment of € 300.00 for the purchase of two books he needed to carry out its case in Turin. Since the ban announced by the Student Senate provides for the payment of expenses for thesis conducted exclusively abroad, the request was refused.
C) must appoint a student representative, chosen within the Student Senate for the CISI ARENA The President asked whether there were senators available to fill that role. Senator proposes BIASCA Sen. Carosso, who was appointed on the spot.
D) Division Curriculum and Students shall inform the Student Senate on the issue of statins and white filling in the career path (ex workload):
statin white Curriculum (teaching load) 2008/2009 academic year
The service in 2008 for completing the online curriculum (already teaching load) will be available by the end of December. While waiting for the service is activated, students must take an examination of the new academic year, a statin can print from self-service through the print function "statins empty." Statino This includes an indication of the data and the registration of the student: the portion of the code and name of the course will be completed by the teacher on examination. For those who must take an examination is already on your study plan you can print the traditional statin. The procedure for printing "Statins empty" will remain available online until the start of the procedure for completing the curriculum. The period within which the plan must be completed online survey is scheduled for January 30, 2009. E) Deputy VAIRA present the question raised in a discussion via e-mail within the Commission for Environmental Sustainability University, during which the Secretary GRANDINETTI proposed to merge the work of the Commission to the Environmental Sustainability Environmental Sustainability Group Wave Yard. The Vice President VAIRA expresses its disagreement with this proposal, together with the President and the Vice-President Mottini ARENA, because the Commission is an institution and an informal group of the shipyard. The Secretary Grandinetti, Coordinator of the Environmental Sustainability of the Student Senate, said that, being that of Vice-President VAIRA an easy communication, debate and does not admit that the issue will be a specific item on the agenda of the next session.
2. Resolution on Academic Senate expanded the motion on November 13, ARENA The President summed up the situation derived from the enlarged session of the Academic Senate, held on November 13, 2008 Rector.
Sen. BIASCA expresses its willingness to take a vote on the motion of Objective Students sent to all senators via e-mail and already discussed in the Standing Committee (the document):
Turin, November 14, 2008
Subject: Student Senate motion in relation to the Conference of the University of November 13, 2008 .
On November 13, 2008 was held the Conference of the university where some students have taken in relation to L. 133 and the forms of protest that are generated against this legislative measure.
A student, coordinator of the Assembly No-Gelmini, has asked to be considered the only channel of communication with academic institutions with regard to the contents of the Law on the University. The president
Student Senate Alice Arena said that the Board of the University of student representative is elected democratically with regular elections: the Student Senate. No one can self-appointed student representative.
was then read out the motion approved in Student Senate, the result of comparing the merits of the issues in broader awareness of the role of the Body.
Alice Arena has shown great courage in the situation without being intimidated by threats of a minority and was the only one who truly represent the student component.
Therefore we express the greatest respect and unity against della Presidente Alice Arena e di tutti coloro che difendono la democrazia e le sue Istituzioni. Chiediamo al Senato Studenti di esprimersi attraverso un voto su questa mozione.
Alberto Biasco
Capogruppo di Obiettivo Studenti Il Sen. CARAPELLUCCI dichiara che sia la Presidente e sia la maggioranza non sono favorevoli alla mozione proposta da Obiettivo Studenti, poiché pur condividendo la solidarietà, questa non può essere espressa tramite mozione, bensì a livello personale e informalmente.
Il Sen. BIASCO ribatte ricordando l’accordo tra le parti raggiunto in Commissione permanente.
La Vicepresidente MOTTINO, concordando con il Sen. CARAPELLUCCI, ricorda che la solidarietà between the individual becomes a person and not through motions. It also underlines that the Student Senate is a collegial body and the University
Secretary GRANDINETTI says that if someone has been threatened, anyone, should receive the solidarity of people, but that does not pull in the middle of democracy and institutions . Therefore affirms its intention not to participate in the vote.
Sen. GARINO requests reasons for doing so.
GRANDINETTI The Secretary responds that solidarity can not be submitted to the vote of a written document only as a provocation and an excuse, using an isolated episode to go against a peaceful and democratic student movement which promoted culture, participation, debate and discussion. He continued by defining the contents of the motion proposed by Objective Students literally as "an avalanche of bullshit."
Sen. Bosonetto agrees with the Secretary GRANDINETTI and deepens the issue is not remembering that one of the tasks of the Student Senate to give solidarity to this or that personal offense, but deeper issues of student interest in this regard to solve practical problems and not on the basis of words out of place in motions presented as out of place. The Mirror
Sen. expresses agreement with Sen. BIASCA pointed out the inconsistency of the majority does not agree with and specifying the scelta di uscire dalla sala al momento del voto.
Il Sen. BIASCO risponde che il Senato si esprimerà su tale questione attraverso il voto, democraticamente, come tutte le altre questioni affrontate fino ad oggi. Inoltre richiede che le parole usate dal Segretario GRANDINETTI siano messe a verbale così come pronunciate.
Il Segretario GRANDINETTI ricorda al Sen. BIASCO di ricoprire il ruolo di Segretario del Senato degli Studenti e risponde che le proprie parole, come quelle di tutti i Senatori, verranno riportate il più fedelmente possibile.
La Presidente ARENA dichiara aperta la votazione.
Non partecipano al voto ed escono dalla sala i Senatori: GRANDINETTI, FRACASTORO, BODINI, BOSONETTO, MOTTINO, GENTLEMAN, Versienti, RIZZI, MILLET, Baio, MIRROR.
Given the absence of the Secretary of the Student Senate during the vote, the outcome of the table that is transcribed by Sen. volunteers to this task.
vote for the approval of the motion as presented: Present
24
Participants vote 13
Favorable 11
Against 0 Abstain 2 (Andrea CARAPELLUCCI, Alice ARENA)
The Student Senate approved by a majority.
fall out all the senators in the room and the session resumed.
3. Draft guidance for students with the Provincial average; The ARENA President shall inform the Student Senate intends to propose a plan for the guidance of high school, indicating that this is a law student and not just a service that the University should seriously and ensure quality.
The President claims to be already in contact with the President of the Provincial Board of Higher Institutes of Turin and in the future also has to contact the Provincial Board of Biella. Goes on to say that the project would be completed by May in order to be operationally effective for freshmen next year (2009/2010 registrations) and supports the possibility of allocating funds for this initiative.
Sen. CARAPELLUCCI intervenes saying that would be useful to the Commission's involvement Orientation and Mentoring University to coordinate the entire campaign, giving a more institutional character of the initiative. He added that it would be advisable to schedule it in order to effectively influence the choices of the University.
Sen. MILE agrees on the proposal of the President and the Sen CARAPELLUCCI, also on the schedule, and proposed to contact the student organizations that deal with guidance, in addition to involving those affected, to increase their effectiveness and make students protagonists of the guarantee of a right and a useful service. The President
ARENA defer any further discussion at the next session when there will be more information and data to prepare an operational work of this initiative.
4. Draft Resolution "PoliMovie" ARENA The President introduced the topic stating how this initiative has already been discussed at the ordinary meeting of 23 July 2008 (see the minutes, No. 10). Goes on to say that now, at Student Senate, is not got no plan initiative.
According to the President it is a good idea but the method of financing is not subject to any rules, because the Student Senate can not donate funds to any association o gruppo di studenti che si presenti, ma bisogna partecipare ai bandi dedicati alle organizzazioni studentesche.
Chiede se sia opportuno che venga finanziata questa iniziativa, organizzata dall’associazione Polimovie del Politecnico di Torino.
Il Sen. BOSONETTO ricorda che l’Associazione Polimovie non si è iscritta all’Albo delle Organizzazioni Studentesche e non ha partecipato al bando delle attività studentesche del Senato degli Studenti.
Il Sen. CARAPELLUCCI sostiene che l’Associazione Polimovie, per realizzare l’iniziativa proposta, necessita di locali dell’Università e che questi locali sono gestiti dai Presidi delle rispettive Facoltà, poco disponibili a concederli, and Logistics Division, no longer available. It would be better to draw up an agreement between the association and the University for the use of such areas. Regarding funding, contending that it is the Ateneo, not to the Student Senate, any finance student activities, but that is not available by the University in this regard. He concludes that the Student Senate can not deal with the funding it, I of the Convention.
ARENA The President intervenes in mind that the answer must be given in the meeting today at the express request of the association PoliMovie.
Sen. BIASCA states that the Association should go PoliMovie the best possible logistical support from the Student Senate, but that the funding of € 10,000.00 is not possible in these terms, since the combination PoliMovie should have thought before and participate in the selection of student organizations like everyone else.
ARENA The President opened the vote:
rating Logistic Support
up 24 votes to 24 participants
Favorable 24
Against 0 Abstain 0
The Student Senate unanimously approved. Rated Funding
€ 10000.00: Present
24
Participants vote
Favorable 24 1 (Fulvio Grandinetti)
21
Against Abstain 2 (Lorenzo Fracastoro, Giulia BODINI)
The Student Senate approved by a majority. At 17:55
out Sen. Garin.
5. Any other business. not the calls for debate on other topics. However, a student
Wave Turin, Philip Orton of the Faculty of Foreign Languages \u200b\u200band Literatures, has applied to take action on behalf of students engaged in mobilizing present during the day.
The intervention is as follows:
"
Today the wave enters the Senate, and what he brings with him more proactive, or his yard.
A site of ideas, a luogo dove vengono attivamente discusse, anche a livello tecnico, le forme e i modi di una nuova università.
L'Assemblea No Gelmini contrappone il suo calderone di idee e di cervelli all'immobilità dimostrata negli ultimi mesi dal Senato Studenti, che si è dimostrato incapace non di rappresentare gli studenti (perché tutti sappiamo che, con l'attuale percentuale di studenti votanti, nessuno di voi rappresenta alcunché), bensì di farsi carico, anche in minima parte, delle istanze portate avanti dal movimento.
E allora, noi oggi invadiamo questo spazio consapevoli di essere più vivi delle istituzioni da voi rappresentate, per il semplice motivo che ognuno di noi è un individuo pienamente attivato e consapevole, determined to achieve its ideals. "
Sen. CARAPELLUCCI states participate in the Wave Yard because it believes that this is a useful, information, training, discussion and comparison of the various academic components of the measures the Government on the University . She says she can not understand how the Student Senate to bear the demands of the student movement, noting that this body has taken a position contrary to the Law 133/08 at its meeting on November 10, 2008 (Minutes No. 14).
Another student Turin Wave, Andrea Ajmar of the Faculty of Political Science, expressed the reasons for the decision of the Wave di svolgere i lavori del Cantiere proprio nella sala di riunione del Senato degli Studenti con il seguente intervento:
“
Perchè il Senato degli Studenti?
Varie sono le ragioni.
Il Senato Studenti rappresenta l'emblema di come le istituzioni universitarie intendono l'apporto degli studenti nelle decisioni da prendere. Esso è infatti un organo puramente consultivo che non può dunque prendere decisioni.
Nel gruppo del Cantiere che si sta occupando di forme di partecipazione e di democrazia interna ci stiamo rendendo conto dei forti limiti che oggi hanno, per quanto riguarda la rappresentatività, le istituzioni universitarie. Occupare il Senato Studenti significa porre al centro anche questa dinamica, mettere discussion in the forms of representation as practiced today are
remind everyone that the Student Senate at the beginning of mobilization is the organ that has refused, in an enlarged session of September 24, 2008, to discuss the merits of the Law 133. The same
Student Senate has voted for an opposition paper to the Law 133/08, but with a delay of over one month than the thousands of students in mobilization.
Moreover, apart from rare exceptions, the representatives who would serve the interests of us male and female students have never helped the movement and non-members.
For these reasons and others contiguous, we made the decision to move the meeting in the Yard sala del Senato Studenti: è un modo come altri per dare visibilità e riconoscimento al lavoro che stiamo facendo noi e di cui voi non siete parte. ”
Il Sen. BIASCO risponde agli studenti dell’Onda che se intendono parlare a nome degli studenti devono candidarsi alle prossime elezioni universitarie.
Seguono dibattiti a gruppetti separati che non favoriscono un dibattito partecipato e condiviso.
La Presidente ARENA dichiara chiusa la seduta per la troppa confusione e alle ore 18.35, esaurita la discussione, scioglie l’adunanza.
Letto, approvato e sottoscritto
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IL SEGRETARIO VERBALIZZANTE
Fulvio GRANDINETTI
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THE PRESIDENT
Alice ARENA
